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Frontpage Updated: Mar 10th, 2010 - 22:56:11 The Vatican values its position more than children's safety News : Europe  -  The Independent on Mar 10, 2010, 22:30 Revelations that Pope Benedict's brother may be called upon to testify in a church abuse scandal raise valid questions about how much the current Pope knew about the allegations. Read more...   Tearing Down the Church-State Wall News : U.S.  -  Consortium News on Mar 10, 2010, 22:26 Under the administration of President George W. Bush, without a single vote by Congress, a whole new federal social service arm was created. It was called the Faith-Based Initiative. Read more...   Does foreign policy need religion? News : World  -  Guardian on Mar 10, 2010, 22:24 For the past 50 years statecraft has ignored religion – but it is a global force we must harness to create a fairer world order Read more...   Violence in Nigeria: food not faith News : World  -  Guardian on Mar 10, 2010, 22:15 Calling the killings in Jos sectarian is wrong. Resources, not religion, are the cause – made worse by bad government Read more...   Reformers want pope to talk about alleged abuse cases News : Europe  -  Deutsche Welle on Mar 10, 2010, 22:07 Child molestation scandals at several German Catholic schools have prompted Catholic reformers to call on Pope Benedict XVI to account for his term as bishop in Bavaria between 1977 and 1982. Read more...   Yamani or Your Life News : World  -  Slate on Mar 10, 2010, 21:59 A nasty attempt to coerce Danish newspapers into apologizing for the cartoons of Mohammed. Read more...   Islam Is Incompatible With Diversity News : World  -  Right Side News on Mar 10, 2010, 21:22 Today the Middle East has one dominant religion and one nationality. While there may be numerous countries, they all compromise an Arab Muslim Empire that extends from North Africa to the Gulf. Read more...   Vatican accused over German sex abuse allegations News : Europe  -  BBC News on Mar 10, 2010, 21:20 Germany's justice minister has criticised the Vatican for what she called a "wall of silence" over recently-emerged abuse allegations. Read more...   'I never knew anything' says Pope's brother caught up in sex abuse row News : Europe  -  Scotsman.com on Mar 10, 2010, 21:18 GERMANY'S justice minister has accused the Vatican of covering up severe sexual abuse after reports of cases at three Catholic schools in the Pope's native Bavaria. Read more...   Father Hans Kung blames Catholic views on sex for clerical child abuse News : Europe  -  Times Online on Mar 10, 2010, 21:15 A leading Roman Catholic theologian has linked clerical sex abuse with priestly celibacy, blaming the Church’s “uptight” views on sex for child abuse scandals in Germany, Ireland and the US. Read more...   More Headlines Comic Latest Forum Posts Tell me why Americans hate atheists. Posted by steenkh on March 11, 2010,07:59 in the Philosophy forum Which claims of atheism contradict each other? And the Bible does not ??? :D You have already seen the lists of silliness in the Bible, so I am sure we do not need to mention that there are talking snakes and other animals in the Bible, the stars are on a fixed firmament, rabbits "chew the... Thread Views: 2,300 , Thread Replies: 232 World's Most Devastating question in history of Atheism Posted by xcept2010 on March 11, 2010,07:53 in the Religion forum Uhhh let's see... what is the ratio of atheists to theists in here? You don't offer any evidence God doesn't exist, so put a cork in it. Thread Views: 1,511 , Thread Replies: 142 Why do atheists make so much ado about IPU and FSM. Posted by steenkh on March 11, 2010,07:51 in the Philosophy forum Which one are you thinking of? In this forum, I think we have been through them all, and there are none that cannot be explained by forgery, tricks or misunderstandings. We have also extensively discussed the validity of the Bible with you, and the best you have come up with is that the Bible itself... Thread Views: 1,683 , Thread Replies: 195 From Monotheism to Polytheism Posted by xcept2010 on March 11, 2010,07:49 in the Religion forum no Satan isn't omni anything. God asks Satan where he has been in Job and he tells God that he has been roaming the earth to and fro. He has a network of fallen angels or now called demons. They cannot read your thoughts, they tempt you by what comes out of your mouth. Again, if you simply research... Thread Views: 872 , Thread Replies: 73 World's Most Devastating question in history of Atheism Posted by steenkh on March 11, 2010,07:34 in the Religion forum I gave you the argument why this is the rational choice, but you ignored it of course. I even put it in caps and bold. How come that atheists tend to address every argument that theists come up with, whereas theists like you ignore most arguments that we bring up? So you merely have the opinion that... Thread Views: 1,511 , Thread Replies: 142 From Monotheism to Polytheism Posted by steenkh on March 11, 2010,07:18 in the Religion forum Of course I am serious that the Christian religion is a polytheistic religion posing as monotheistic. How would you explain the three-in-one concept otherwise? That is also what I have said. They exist as one, but yet, they are separate. And as I said, we have have no idea if the trinity is a trinity,... Thread Views: 872 , Thread Replies: 73 hi everyone/the failure of St. Anselm's argument Posted by Dranu on March 11, 2010,07:07 in the Philosophy forum You are of course correct. This, however, is what the argument attempts to demonstrate, that in THIS case "the other way around" also follows. All proofs do this. Depending on which assumption you speak of, I have further arguments for it, though they also rely on further assumptions and... Thread Views: 1,317 , Thread Replies: 44 Only agnosticism makes sense Posted by Crunchy on March 11, 2010,07:05 in the Religion forum A common misconception among theists. Another is that atheists are just mad at god. Or that atheists hate god. Or that atheists worship satan. (I've been accused of all of these) These positions make theists who use them look silly because it shows they completely fail to even attempt to understand... Thread Views: 488 , Thread Replies: 62 Messiah or Not? Posted by steenkh on March 11, 2010,07:03 in the Religion forum And your claim is wrong. There is less credible evidence for the supernatural than there has ever been. There has already been plenty of trials. Parapsychologists have attempted to find evidence for psi for more than 100 years, and they have come up with nothing. The failure of projects like PEAR has... Thread Views: 1,194 , Thread Replies: 120 Only agnosticism makes sense Posted by Dranu on March 11, 2010,06:50 in the Religion forum My friend, I already did. If you read my first response to you I gave an example. If you'd like I'll try and think of more but that was one that came to the top of my head. Likewise. Take a gander at it again. Since I can quickly think of some I'll give you a few more specifically that I think... Thread Views: 488 , Thread Replies: 62 Only agnosticism makes sense Posted by Crunchy on March 11, 2010,06:30 in the Religion forum How can there be empirical evidence for that which does not exist? So what. Or you could just say that you think your right and that they are wrong. That even intelligent, hardworking people can be affected by mass delusion, the need feel included, etc.. Perhaps the majority of humanity... Thread Views: 488 , Thread Replies: 62 The possibility of absolute certainty Posted by HowardHolmes on March 11, 2010,06:03 in the Philosophy forum Saying you believe something which you are not justified in believing is easy. The hard part is to name a single belief you currently hold which you believe you are not justified in believing. If you have no evidence to tell you that your parents are home, you do not believe your parents are home.... Thread Views: 1,129 , Thread Replies: 157 The possibility of absolute certainty Posted by HowardHolmes on March 11, 2010,05:46 in the Philosophy forum No, they don't. They could not be possible. For instance, note this from wikepedia: The term fideist, one who argues for fideism, is very rarely self applied. Support of fideism is most commonly ascribed to four philosophers: Pascal, Kierkegaard, William James, and Wittgenstein; with fideism being... Thread Views: 1,129 , Thread Replies: 157 hi everyone/the failure of St. Anselm's argument Posted by Crunchy on March 11, 2010,04:43 in the Philosophy forum Anything that exists in reality exists in concept by default. Not so the other way around. The “proof” is still based on an unproven assumption therefore it cannot itself be a proof. Thread Views: 1,317 , Thread Replies: 44 Tell me why Americans hate atheists. Posted by Crunchy on March 11, 2010,04:34 in the Philosophy forum Maybe I was planning to teach you in person what it means to be a victim. Maybe I was planning on posting your exact address on Nazi and radical Islamic sites and telling them you’re a jew who works diligently against them. Why should you care if someone shows up tomorrow to punch your teeth down... Thread Views: 2,300 , Thread Replies: 232 The possibility of absolute certainty Posted by Thought Criminal on March 11, 2010,04:25 in the Philosophy forum 3) Your theory of belief is bullshit. Fideists exist. Thread Views: 1,129 , Thread Replies: 157 The possibility of absolute certainty Posted by HowardHolmes on March 11, 2010,04:02 in the Philosophy forum Let's take me as an example of someone who is capable of believing utter nonsense. When I do an examination of my beliefs I find none that seem to be to be utter nonsense, so I would have to conclude that either I have no beliefs that are utter nonsense, or else I am incapable of recognizing them. I'll... Thread Views: 1,129 , Thread Replies: 157 World's Most Devastating question in history of Atheism Posted by Thought Criminal on March 11, 2010,03:58 in the Religion forum Indeed. The supernatural explanation is, as usual, not parsimonious. Thread Views: 1,511 , Thread Replies: 142 Only agnosticism makes sense Posted by Thought Criminal on March 11, 2010,03:55 in the Religion forum You keep tossing this out as a premise, but it's simply not true. There is a clear consensus among those who hold their beliefs to a public standard, who demand of themselves what they demand of others. There is a different, and irrelevant, consensus among those who allow private standards, as per... Thread Views: 488 , Thread Replies: 62 The possibility of absolute certainty Posted by Thought Criminal on March 11, 2010,03:45 in the Philosophy forum That's mostly correct, but I'm also saying that some people's outlooks are not optimized for truth-gathering, and are instead more about comfort. For example, many find it very disturbing that death is real and final. They'd rather believe in some sort of afterlife. So they start with this goal... Thread Views: 1,129 , Thread Replies: 157

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