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Frontpage Updated: Jul 2nd, 2009 - 10:48:48 50 Voices of Disbelief, an interview with Russell Blackford and Udo Schuklenk News : U.S.  -  Examiner.com on Jul 2, 2009, 10:47 “50 Voices of Disbelief: Why We Are Atheists” by Russell Blackford and Udu Schuklenk is a collection of essays by some of the most prominent on why they are atheists Read more...   Olbermann's Worlds Worst: NYC Atheist Bus campaign's donor News : U.S.  -  Examiner.com on Jul 2, 2009, 10:43 Parents get denied custody of their children for being atheists. People get harassed and vandalized by their neighbors for being atheists. Teachers get suspended for being atheists. Teenagers get harassed and suspended from school for being atheists. Read more...   Freedom of Personal Choice: A French Forgotten Right News : Europe  -  Islam Online on Jul 2, 2009, 10:41 Each person should be able to wear whatever he or she likes. This fight against all visible signs of the Muslim faith is becoming utterly infuriating Read more...   New lease of Life for Brian as Glasgow ends film ban after 29 years News : Europe  -  Scotsman.com on Jul 2, 2009, 10:40 For almost 30 years, one of the classic comedy films has been unofficially "banned" in Glasgow, after it was branded blasphemous by councillors on its release. Read more...   Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warns of revenge on pro-democracy states News : World  -  Telegraph.co.uk on Jul 2, 2009, 10:38 Iran's hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has warned the regime would seek revenge against states it has accused of fanning pro-democracy demonstrations in the wake of its disputed election. Read more...   Björn from ABBA: There's probably no God News : Europe  -  The Local on Jul 2, 2009, 10:36 "Freedom from indoctrination ought to be a basic human right for all children," argues ABBA star Björn Ulvaeus in a passionate plea for Sweden to rethink its policy on faith-based schools. Read more...   'OFFENSIVE' ICE CREAM AD IS BANNED News : Europe  -  Daily Express on Jul 2, 2009, 10:34 An ice cream advert which showed a priest and a nun in a "seductive pose" has been banned after readers complained that it was offensive, the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has said. Read more...   German court affirms swim compulsion for Muslim girl News : Europe  -  Monsters & Critics on Jul 2, 2009, 10:32 The controversial powers of German schools to compel Muslim girls to attend swimming lessons with boys in the pool were affirmed Tuesday by a tribunal. Read more...   Qaeda warns France of revenge for burka stance News : Europe  -  Yahoo News on Jul 2, 2009, 10:31 Al-Qaeda's North Africa wing threatened on Tuesday to take revenge on France for its opposition to the burka, calling on Muslims to retaliate against the country Read more...   British Government imposes Christian constitution on the Cayman Islands News : World  -  Cranmer on Jul 2, 2009, 10:28 The Cayman Islands are a British overseas territory and have been since they were ceded to England in 1670 under the Treaty of Madrid. Read more...   More Headlines Comic Latest Forum Posts "Absence of evidence" & "proving a negative" Posted by Voter on July 03, 2009,01:58 in the Philosophy forum This is a matter of spin. You could just as easily say that the empty table is positive evidence that your keys are not on it. Absence of evidence might be that you can't get into your house to even look at the table. Thread Views: 53 , Thread Replies: 8 Supernatural Posted by bowmore on July 03, 2009,01:46 in the Philosophy forum Of course here we disagree. Thread Views: 1,192 , Thread Replies: 122 The Five Prophecies of Jerome Posted by Martin on July 03, 2009,01:44 in the Religion forum (continued) These are Jerome's 5 prophecies/allusions. For each of the prophecies/allusions we'll look at (1) Jerome's comment (2) look up the NT allusion, (3) quote the Hebrew Old Testament (taken from KJV) and (4) the Greek Old Testament (i.e. the Septuagint translated by Lancelot Brenton) Out... Thread Views: 6 , Thread Replies: 1 The Five Prophecies of Jerome Posted by Martin on July 03, 2009,01:44 in the Religion forum Once up a time the church was happy (this happened a long time ago). The old Testament, the Apocryphals and the New Testament were all written in Greek. Whenever Jesus or the apostles quoted The Old Testament, you could look it up in the The Old Testament, the Septuagint, and confirm that the quote... Thread Views: 6 , Thread Replies: 1 Are there any set rules for Atheism Posted by bowmore on July 03, 2009,01:40 in the Religion forum I'm just saying, I don't have any good arguments against that position. Thread Views: 471 , Thread Replies: 34 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Cherbury on July 03, 2009,01:29 in the Religion forum Sure! World peace -- which we still don't have today even with the Cold War now history -- would not obtain with but one dissenter, true. But this exchange here is comparing attitudes and not all-peace and/or all-war results. The attitudes that yielded the two sides' blinking in the 1980s came primarily... Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 "Absence of evidence" & "proving a negative" Posted by Bill on July 03, 2009,00:44 in the Philosophy forum I think I can draw a distinction between proving that some circumstance is not true and that some thing does not exist. Proving that your keys are not on the table does not prove that they have ceased to exist, just that they are not in that one specified location. If you go on to prove that they... Thread Views: 53 , Thread Replies: 8 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Rune Nyrup on July 03, 2009,00:39 in the Religion forum May I butt in? The vital point is that neither "love thy enemies" nor "crush thy enemies" will ensure world peace. "Love thy enemies" might preserve world peace once everybody has agreed to it, but add only one disenter, and it goes down the drain. Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 "Absence of evidence" & "proving a negative" Posted by Rune Nyrup on July 03, 2009,00:23 in the Philosophy forum It seems to me that we are in agreement. The result of the poll is: 1) No evidence that McX lives in my city. Taken together with the knowledge that 2) McX is very sociable and 3) we actually performed that poll, makes the lack of evidence (1) evidence that McX does not live in my city. Thread Views: 53 , Thread Replies: 8 "Absence of evidence" & "proving a negative" Posted by Rune Nyrup on July 03, 2009,00:18 in the Philosophy forum This is one sense in which it is a trivial truth. It is very rare that we have definitive evidence for anything, or that we can prove it. On the contrary, I think it is quite often that absence of evidence is evidence of absence. The "maxim" is not even a general thruth with a few counter... Thread Views: 53 , Thread Replies: 8 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Bill on July 03, 2009,00:16 in the Religion forum Ok, already - I have only opined that a small hamlet might have been there, for landsakes. No-one around here is claiming your actual full blown citizenship sort of city. Sheesh! Some people are so touchy ... I was gently hinting that, with all you learned research, I had a hard time coming to... Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Cherbury on July 03, 2009,00:11 in the Religion forum Actually, this exchange interests me more. So I'm doing a follow-up to this message, so that this follow-up on "Love your enemies" and the Cold War will be the first exchange visited by people instead of any other when checking the latest in this thread. The above-cited query is addressed... Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Martin on July 03, 2009,00:08 in the Religion forum Thank you. I try to keep everyone on their toes. Isn't that an odd thing to do? First he has all the trouble with being born of a virgin, summoning a stand-still star, the magi from the East, angels here and there, getting a lot of children killed by Herod and so on. And after going through all this... Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 "Absence of evidence" & "proving a negative" Posted by Lars on July 03, 2009,00:02 in the Philosophy forum I think the way people generally use these the first one should more correctly be phrased: "absence of evidence is not proof of absence" Thread Views: 53 , Thread Replies: 8 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Cherbury on July 03, 2009,00:00 in the Religion forum All right, all right, I overreacted -- OKAY?? Cherbury Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Xaignar on July 02, 2009,23:56 in the Religion forum Because I am a sexy, sexy man? 59 Damn! You caught us. How stupid of me to try to keep a secret by asking Martin to discuss the matter in public! And I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for you meddling kids and your stupid dog! On a more serious note, I'll try to reply to your... Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Cherbury on July 02, 2009,23:46 in the Religion forum Odd you of all people should say that. Why everything you say is always curious. Of course not. But the biggest ones are. In any case, in Mark, Jesus spends practically all his time in hiding. If you read Mark, relatively little. Yes, Judas plays a big role but only because the authorities... Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Xaignar on July 02, 2009,23:39 in the Religion forum Please start a new thread. That way everyone can see what you mean. :) Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Martin on July 02, 2009,23:16 in the Religion forum What a curious thing to say. Are you saying there were no authorities outside Jerusalem? And if the authorities were sufficiently aroused in Jerusalem, where do the Jews and Judas come into the picture? And how do you reconcile your claim with Irenaeus, who had it on perfect authority that Jesus'... Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138 Why Jesus mythicism's important Posted by Martin on July 02, 2009,23:11 in the Religion forum Um, it's a bit lengthy. Do I PM you with a link to my Danish site? Or is there such a widespread demand to hear the Truth™ at last, so that I should make a separate thread? (lest it should drown amid all the mythicism-denial) Thread Views: 1,918 , Thread Replies: 138

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